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Lou Tilsley's avatar

This may be off the mark but what struck me from reading this piece was that perhaps the issue is that people are losing the ability to be nuanced. It seems to me that the prevailing attitude everywhere is that everything is black and white. You need to pick a side on every issue and depending on your outlook, one side is entirely right and one side is entirely wrong. For that reason I suspect many people dislike narratives where clear lines are not drawn and all characters are human and flawed. However, based on your description alone (I have not seen the film), I am slightly flummoxed that reviewers have failed to see where Garland has set out his stall.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Nuance is something that has become increasingly foreign to Hollywood film development. Many of these screenwriting guides unwittingly or outright suggest such things will hinder your ability to sell your script. People then sell scripts inspired by this thinking. They're successful and it reinforces the rule. Audiences, along the way, get dumber. It's not uncoincidental that commercial-driven TV required regular "check-ins". As TV has become more prevalent in culture, I think this rule has widened to include feature films.

Frank & You's avatar

Sometimes I post Facebook comments that are tongue-in-cheek and not meant to be taken literally. There was a video on Red Bull's channel of some skaters on a rooftop skatepark in Dubai. I cheekily suggested that Dubai may be covering up the number of people killed by falling skateboards ("How many skateboards have gone over the side and killed someone?") and as expected, the comment was taken literally by many Gen Z readers. Of course, nobody got killed. We'd have heard about it the world over if that happened. Just some people seemed incapable of seeing that I was being mildly trollish. As you noted, it seems people cannot see the nuance anymore. What I said challenged some readers, and they responded by telling me I was a clown (well, obviously), or telling me to get some kind of life, as if I wasn't getting all the life by laughing at the bites to my bait.

I am not really surprised by these critics' response to Civil War. Americans lost in their dopamine fogs need blatant signposting and if you make people think, they become unmoored. I've lost count of the number of so-called libertarian friends whom I challenge to explain why they're bleating on about X being Y, or why Z is better than X (e.g., the political distortion of one far right party calling the other near far right party "leftist" when both parties are deep into the red and the so-called progressive party isn't progressive by global standards), and they just repeat talking points that aren't based on any kind of facts or even Google university research. That happens among the putative "left" as well as the right among Americans whom I converse with on the Internet.

Nuance is lost when soundbites are king. When doomscrolling for dopamine means that concepts never run very deep. Why spend one hour thinking about something when you can get that 'aha!' hit from a 30-sec hot-take reel?

Lou Tilsley's avatar

I’m not sure you can lay this entirely at the door of the US. There’s plenty of blinkered thinking in the UK too if not elsewhere.

Frank & You's avatar

For sure. I am from New Zealand living in Mexico City and most of my socials is in Line groups mostly populated by Americans, so that's the sample I'm referencing. It's a generation out there.

Lou Tilsley's avatar

I’ve just watched Civil War so I’ve come back to read your piece again and my comment. I stand by my initial thoughts and I whole-heartedly agree with you. This is a truly impressive film - probably the best I’ve seen this year - and hugely thought-provoking because you are thrown into the action without really knowing the background and you, as a viewer, have to draw conclusions based on people’s actions rather than what side they stand on. I think it is incredibly effective and I appreciated it immensely. I just wish more modern cinema was this intelligent!

Cole Haddon's avatar

I'm so glad you enjoyed it (if that's the right word)!

Dammit Damian's avatar

You nailed a lot of points right on the head! I dug the hell out of the movie, while my lady said, "It was fine."

What I liked about it is, we're following Journalists, and journalists should be impartial and I felt the film itself was impartial. It just showed us this world that these people inhabit and the way they navigate this world. My favorite films are those that act like photographs, little moments in time. So where these moments and these people. It's art, you know?

And maybe it's because I just watched ALL ABOUT EVE for the very first time this week, but I got a real sense that Jessie was an Eve type character. She's moving in on Lee's world. She wants to become Lee. She wants to learn at her feet, and work to maybe not "Take over" Lee's life, but emulate that life. I love movies that take these two narratives and marry them together.

This was a character piece as well as being a portrait of the potential world to come. Even The United States is a character in this.

Really well done, and what a great essay on a damn fine film.

Cole Haddon's avatar

As I said elsewhere, I think this ALL ABOUT EVE observation is really damn interesting and I'm going to think about that one for a while!

Dammit Damian's avatar

I had that thought independently on my own, and just googled it. I'm so stoked I'm not the only one who connected "Civil War" & " All About Eve!!"

Cole Haddon's avatar

I haven't had a chance to Google it yet. If you find anything academic or similar on the subject that you really like, please send it my way.

Duane Swierczynski's avatar

This was brilliant, Cole. I had the same reaction you did (to both the film, and the weird criticism of it), but struggled to put it into words. Thank you.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Thanks, Duane. I'm enjoying this "art/culture criticism" turn to my life. Artists used to do this regularly. Then, we convinced ourselves that's reserved for when we become lecturers at universities. But I think critical essays are important.

Autumn Widdoes's avatar

This film is very frightening and it is absolutely a warning, the same way "Leave The World Behind" is a warning, though I think "Civil War," is a much better film because it isn't telling us how or what to think (which the other film does via lecturing us). I don't think Garland went far enough with this film though. Many of the foreign lands that have devolved into civil wars in the 20th century did not happen on their own. They happened because the US or Europe or one of either of the two's allies meddled in the course of those countries' development or their stability. There's a line in "Civil War" when the journalists are either at the hotel before the road trip or just starting out on the road trip. It is about the president disbanding the FBI. I noted this. I know we're automatically going to make a connection to this movie and our current political situation. I believe Garland was looking at something deeper than politics that exists in the psyche of America. It's what Philip Roth called "The indigenous American berserk." This is a frenzied energy that can attack from the right or the left (and it seems like it may be attacking from both in our era - but in the film that wasn't very clear and I think that is why people are critical of it - but they shouldn't be). It is a madness that whips through our nation via our puritanical roots. It's why art is no longer allowed to just be art, films have to be agitprop or they are worthless (or they are viewed suspiciously or ignored). "Civil War" is what you come to when the berzerk is not contained. If this culture goes south economically (because a collapse of our economy at this fragile time could have people in the streets fighting each other and fighting the police). Anyway, I think Garland captured the terror of it effectively. I nearly walked out of the theater during the scene with the militia men (Jesse Plemmons) almost murdering everyone on sight. I was very afraid. I think Garland set out to make us afraid and he succeeded.

Cole Haddon's avatar

I think it's perfectly fine to want the film to have gone further in some regards and argue it would've been more effective had it done so, but I think there were also reasons Garland didn't do this. When I consider the effect going further would've had on my own reaction, for example, I think I would've had a lesser experience. I think the film might've been more fixed in time and geographically, when right now I think it's a film that could stand for generations and continue to be debated. But that's part of having a thoughtful debate about it rather than simply saying "I wanted it to be X and I'm going to hate it because it's not." I think that's a dangerous way to approach art myself, especially since who you are today isn't who you'll be in ten or thirty years. Maybe you'll want something else from it in ten years. Maybe what it is will make it the greatest film ever made in thirty years. Anyway, rambling now. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Andy Adams's avatar

Excellent piece, Cole — Thanks. I saw Civil War earlier this week and found it riveting and extremely affecting. I was buzzing on the way home and woke up thinking about it the morning after. It's a powerful, chilling film and one that made me think about many things. I appreciated it and have recommended it to my friends. Photography people, in particular, will be interested. But it's a picture that everyone should see. Looking forward to reading more of your posts.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Thanks, Andy. I agree. It feels like a very necessary film, if only because it might actually inspire real debate about art amongst the casual filmgoer. Most films today don't do that, sadly.

Robert Bruinewoud's avatar

haven't seen the movie yet, but from what i've read, it seems the point of the movie is much the same as Peter Capaldi's tirade in Doctor Who:

“When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken! How many lives shattered! How much blood will spill until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning -- sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just -- I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind.”

i think Garland is saying, be careful what you wish for, and chill the fuck out, and talk

Cole Haddon's avatar

I would not disagree with you. (Also, that monologue was an remains terrific.)

Dan Pal's avatar

Great points Cole! I've not seen the film yet and have been reluctant to do so because of, yes, how uncomfortable it might make me feel. I think you make some really interesting observations though about cinema, what Hollywood gives us, and how we have to ride with a film based on the filmmaker's intentions not our expectations. When I asked the film majors I teach how many of them saw the film after the first weekend, only one out of 25 raised their hands. The rest did not seem interested in the film at all. Perhaps the idea of war scares them or, more likely, most are still trying to get past seeing films that aren't action-oriented superhero focused or horror based. However, you've outlined some good reasons why they (and I) might really need to see this.

Cole Haddon's avatar

I would love to read a real, deep study of the film-viewing habits of "young adults" today. I see a lot of bad opinions and a lot of aspersions, but thoughtful analysis seems to be lacking.

geoduck's avatar

I haven't seen Civil War, but I remember being pleasantly surprised by how The Hunger Games: Mockingjay explored this issue--for a teenage audience, no less. The point is not that all sides are bad, but that no side is necessarily good; the political concept of "side" itself is suspect. The revolution is never for your benefit, thanks to the revolutionaries.

Stephanie Izsak's avatar

I have so much to say, but I’ll start with it seems that Chang was disappointed that Garland was not ‘world building’ enough, vis a vis, where is the franchise potential…? Maybe not so directly, but his criticism of the lack of post-script to the plot reveals the shallow depth of his creative inquiry. It’s a way of thinking and looking at cinema that is, indeed, frightening. Made more so by the fact that he doesn’t see it.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Yeah, I don't really understand his review at all. It very much disappointed me. I tend not to find his work shallow, but this one certainly felt that way to me. Looking forward to diving into your piece on this subject, too!

David Perlmutter's avatar

I learned how to write film and TV by watching film and TV. The guides you mention focus on how the structure of a script is to be built and maintained as a document- they say very little about how to produce them with substance. For that you have to actually look at the work of the real experts- who are NOT studio executives...

Cole Haddon's avatar

But-But-But if you just follow the assembly instructions, you'll get a great and successful film, David. (Sigh.)

M. N. Tarrint's avatar

I think a good story let's you work things out and isn't obliged to give you all the answers. In real life we aren't given all the answers packed up in a tidy denouement. I haven't seen Civil War yet. Long story short is that I've been picking up on the brewing potential for Civil War here in the US since 2016 and it's been nerve wracking. My family also left Iran during the onset of 1979 Iranian revolution. We were there because my dad was hired by Bell Helicopter as a flight instructor. Anyway, my radar has been on alert for awhile and when I saw the preview for Civil War, something felt too real about it. I guess I need to get my courage up and watch it. I think part of American exceptionalism is the flaw of thinking "it could never happen here". I hope it never does.

Cole Haddon's avatar

So much of this film is a plea that it "never happen here"!

Cole Haddon's avatar

Thanks for sharing. Lot to chew on here. I'm not as optimistic as him, if optimistic is the right word. Beyond that, I think my feels become too controversial for Substack. Heh.

Michael Dolce's avatar

Storytelling and movies in general have become casualty in the ongoing decay of our brains thanks to social media and the endless scrolling on instagram and tick too. Why do I have to wait around for answers when I get them on socia, media in under 30 seconds? Great article!

Cole Haddon's avatar

This is very much true. My nine year old constantly asks questions about films like, "When will we find out what happened to the little girl?" And I inevitably reply in some way such as, "I don't know. Maybe we won't. That's what's called suspense. It's a good feeling to have about a lot of things." Social media has reverted a lot of adults' brains to this childlike state; while social media has prevented a lot of younger adults from ever evolving away from it I suspect.

Michael Dolce's avatar

Yes!!! My 8 year old son too!! All through Star Wars - what’s going to happen dad?? lol

John Ward's avatar

Thanks, Cole. Haven't seen the film yet, but excited to do so.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Come back and share your thoughts when you do!

poloniousmonk's avatar

You personally convinced me to watch "Civil War". I'd read too many of the ignorant reviews. Thank you.

You touch on an idea I frequently express: You can't beat nazis with violence. At best, you become them to win the war. (Look at Israel.)

You beat nazis by mocking them early and often so they can't build a following. If it's too late for that, you beat them by being tougher than them. You give them what they want and make them choke on it. I see that in play around the world today.

As far as "show don't tell" goes, I've always truly admired "Reservoir Dogs". It forces the viewer to infer /the whole goddamn plot/. Quick Q: Who shot Nice Guy Eddie in the final confrontation? I've never met anyone else who picked up that tidbit.

Cole Haddon's avatar

How did you feel about the film?!

poloniousmonk's avatar

I thought about the same as you. It's a movie that's art as well as entertainment. It said a lot to me, but I think I might be more...perceptive? Naah...more emotional? Nahh...more /empathetic/ than those movie reviewers that didn't get it. Plus, I'm at home with complexity and nuance. It's all I see everywhere I look.

I though it was powerful and timely. And very well done. I basically don't know any actors younger than me, as I grew up on DeNiro and Pacino and Kathleen Turner and Robin Wright. I gained a lot of respect for Kirsten Dunst watching this film. She's got it.

Cole Haddon's avatar

Kirsten Dunst is a remarkable actress!

E. Lewis's avatar

I didn’t care for the movie. But for one very particular, and I would have thought, very obvious reason: America is already an incredibly violent place. (Can somebody point to another supposed democracy where the elected representatives of ONE PARTY pose for Christmas cards with everyone in the family- from the 5 yr old to the 90 yr old grand-grandmother, brandishing automatic weapons?) And the movie seems to think America was Norway or Japan in 2015- and then ALL THESE WEAPONS JUST APPEARED! And many people were very eager to use them to kill their imagined “enemies”.

Cole Haddon's avatar

I have to say, I didn't get that impression. I thought the set-up was that America had so many guns that it made citizen militias inevitable.

judith Abingdon's avatar

Thank you for highlighting this exceptional and timely piece of cinema Cole. It's hard to believe that people would need a road map to understand it, but the Idiotocracy has brought us here.

Cole Haddon's avatar

I still can't believe people were confused about the filmmaker's intentions.