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Carrie Eldridge's avatar

Vonnegut will always be one of my faves, and a few years ago i came across this book at the library. Learning about his method and what it was like to be one of his students was amazing and very insightful. Highly recommend, and a very quick read despite the thickness! https://www.sevenstories.com/books/4199-pity-the-reader?srsltid=AfmBOoprbZdsmxq3EFACAJswq137ts2HbHAE8nzgSSAdQdchBXztk3Un

Cole Haddon's avatar

Thanks for the tip, Carrie!

JamesLuo's avatar

I love Vonnegut but those are not the best rules. I think he was just having a bit of fun, as can be seen from rule 8. But lots of famous writers have written short lists of rules. Someone—not me—should compile them and do a KO contest or poll

Whistling in the Dark - aka Ty's avatar

I've seen this list before, on multiple occasions. It's useful until it’s not. I see them more as guidelines rather than hard rules that must be adhered to.

The thing with rules is that there's always exceptions and what might fit one story/narrative, might not work for another.

Nick Winney's avatar

these are pretty sensible rules and i break them almost all the time… maybe thats my problem…

April Sopkin's avatar

Number 8 actually does resonant with me. I teach fiction writing and one of the things I find myself reiterating to students again and again: don’t make the facts of the story the whole story. Declare the facts up front so the story can be about much more than that.

J. Lincoln Fenn's avatar

I also have to share my favorite Vonnegut/H.G. Wells/GE story about the origin of ice-nine: https://cen.acs.org/articles/85/i23/Vonnegut-Met-H-G-Wells.html

J. Lincoln Fenn's avatar

I’m learning to play with #8. I think it was Hitchcock who talked about the difference between a bomb in a bag going off and the audience doesn’t know so it’s a shock, as opposed to the audience knowing which creates suspense.

Victoria Stoilova's avatar

Mentioning Flannery O’Connor adds useful context: it shows that even great writers often defy “rules,” reinforcing that guidelines in writing aren’t rigid formulas—and, really, they never should be. 🤍🪽

Robert Bruinewoud's avatar

use the time of a total stranger (and/or my dear friends) in such a way that they will not feel their time was wasted – this is the golden rule for me – everything else flows (or doesn't) from this

lou J's avatar

I can’t remember when I first ran into Vonnegut’s “Rules,” but adopted them immediately as a pillar of my curriculum teaching high school English for 34!years. They propelled many wonderful discussions about reading and writing. And though I am happily retired now, I suddenly miss my career. Was talking just last night about the power of “give ‘em someone to root for.”

Kev Rooney's avatar

I'm glad you said that about number 8, as I was thinking the same thing! Numbers 1 and 7 are golden, though.