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Cole Haddon's avatar

A lot of people commenting seem oblivious to the fact that academics, artists, and similar have a long history of publishing disagreements or engaging in public debates. It's called "arts discourse". Emily Wilson is a brilliant person, a full-blown adult from a family of academics, her own father being a seasoned professional at public feuds. She published a piece of criticism fully aware many would disagree with her as I have. That disagreement is going to help her sales, help the film too I expect, and, hopefully, through rebuttals like this one, lead to some of us better understanding how to engage with and critique art (it's obvious I think she could sharpen her skills). If she wrote a response to my piece tomorrow, I know I wouldn't be upset about it. Hell, I'd probably pick up more subscribers than I'd be able to make sense of as a result. And in the process, some of those reading us might find a deeper passion for the classics and the arts in general -- and that's a win for our culture, as far as I'm concerned.

Edit 1: Please note that I have lost patience with people throwing around words like misogyny or suggesting that anyone who disagrees with a woman doesn't like that they have an opinion. If you can back that up with any detail in the article, I'll let it stand. I've been called out before for unconscious biases and I'd be happy to discuss those here. But if you intend to shut down a conversation without backing yourself up, I'll remove your comment just as I have comments from every man who criticized Emily Wilson's translations as inferior to men's without explaining themselves or demeaned her qualifications. She is a brilliant academic who wrote what I believe is a poor piece of art criticism. The world can sustain both possibilities.

Edit 2: I've spent a considerable amount of time on this comments section now, engaging both with people who agree with me and people who don't. But after so many interactions, I'm not longer humoring those who drop outright attacks on me or anyone else or contribute nothing but vitriol to what I hoped would be a more thoughtful conversation. If you do this, I'll be deleting your comment and, depending on how I deem the inappropriateness of it, banning you from commenting for a month to forever. Especially egregious commenters will be outright blocked.

Leah Eichler's avatar

Thanks for this. I made the mistake of reading Wilson's takedown last night, right after I saw the film in theatres, and it did detract from my enjoyment a bit. Your analysis gave it back to me.

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