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Bonus Episode: Karen Horne Talks the Cultural/Economic Impact of Three Diverse Hollywood Titles
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Bonus Episode: Karen Horne Talks the Cultural/Economic Impact of Three Diverse Hollywood Titles

The DEI pioneer returns to discuss how 'A Different World', 'Barbie', and 'Sinners' both left huge cultural footprints and proved that diverse storytelling is hugely profitable in film/TV

Earlier this week, Karen Horne — DEI pioneer and former Senior VP of North America Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion for Warner Bros. Discovery — joined me for some 5AM StoryTalk. You can listen to that here if you haven’t already. Today, Karen returns for a bonus episode exclusive to my superstar paid subscribers whose support keeps the lights on here. Instead of discussing a seminal piece of art from her life (which is what I usually do with such bonus content), we’ll instead take a look at the cultural and economic impact of three seminal pieces of diverse art in Hollywood’s history that she selected — “A Different World”, Barbie, and Sinners. Of course, we’ll touch on many more, from “The Cosby Show” to “Fresh Off the Boat” and Black Panther.

How did/does centering non-cishet white characters and themes impact the success of these films and TV series? But beyond this question we’re also going to explore how storytelling — especially film/TV storytelling — can challenge and reshape the cultural conversation around so many subjects.

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