Earlier this week, Karen Horne — DEI pioneer and former Senior VP of North America Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion for Warner Bros. Discovery — joined me for some 5AM StoryTalk. You can listen to that here if you haven’t already. Today, Karen returns for a bonus episode exclusive to my superstar paid subscribers whose support keeps the lights on here. Instead of discussing a seminal piece of art from her life (which is what I usually do with such bonus content), we’ll instead take a look at the cultural and economic impact of three seminal pieces of diverse art in Hollywood’s history that she selected — “A Different World”, Barbie, and Sinners. Of course, we’ll touch on many more, from “The Cosby Show” to “Fresh Off the Boat” and Black Panther.
How did/does centering non-cishet white characters and themes impact the success of these films and TV series? But beyond this question we’re also going to explore how storytelling — especially film/TV storytelling — can challenge and reshape the cultural conversation around so many subjects.
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And don’t forget to listen to the first part of my conversation with Karen!
Q&A: DEI Pioneer Karen Horne Wants You to Do It For the Money
This week on the 5AM StoryTalk Podcast, I'm joined by Karen Horne — DEI pioneer and former Senior VP of North America Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion for Warner Bros. Discovery. Those three little letters — DEI — have done so much to transform the lives of women, people of color, LGBTQIA+ people, and even disabled people in the Unite…
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