Earlier this week, Australian musician Ben Lee joined me for some 5AM StoryTalk (which you can listen to that here if you haven’t already). Today, Ben returns for a bonus episode in which he discusses a foundational piece of art from his life — the iconic short story “The Balloon” by Donald Barthelme, first published in The New Yorker in 1966.
You can read “The Balloon” here in anticipation of listening to this bonus chat (it’s barely six pages!).
Barthelme is a celebrate postmodern author whose work often skews toward the surreal like this short story that is a first person accounting of the appearance of a massive irregularly shaped balloon over New York City that stretches from 14th Street to Central Park. What is the balloon and what does it mean?
At 5AM StoryTalk, I like to discuss the role of the audience or the viewer in a piece of art how we’re a participant in the story and, as a result, a kind of co-author of its meaning. “The Balloon” is the epitome of this.
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Don’t forget to listen to the first part of my conversation with Ben!
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